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welcome back to "morning joe." it's been great having you with us today. just a special word about t.j., our director. his father passed away last night. certainly he's been fighting for some time now. our thoughts and prayers are with t.j. and certainly his mom. >> t.j., we love you. >> and the entire family. that does it for us today. >> it's way too early, what time is it? >> it's "morning joe." but right now it is time for "the daily rundown" with chuck and savannah. >> savannah, be nice to those u.s. senators. come on. quit picking on them. your federal government, not at work. day four in the nation's capital is still snowed in. washington mayor adrian fenty will join us live to tell us when this town is getting back to business. our interviews with white house press secretary robert gibbs responding to senator kitt
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bond's comments on this show yesterday saying the administration is bungling national security. it's february 11th, 2010. i'm chuck todd. >> good morning, i'm savannah guthrie. we'll start with the storm that has shut the u.s. government down for a fourth straight day. crews are now trying to dig out the nation's capital after another ten inches fell yesterday. nbc's mike viqueira almost blew away live on our way yesterday. he returns today with an update looking better, mike. but this is incredible. >> reporter: it sure is. the day has broken clear and crisp here in washington. sort of looks like a giant marshmallow, melting all over the landscape in washington. they've set records up and down the east coast. washington, 55 inches this season breaking a record set in 1899. baltimore and philadelphia, records as well. here's an interesting statistic. the city of washington -- here we go again with the wind, savannah. >> it's you, mike. >> it is a little bit windy out here. the city of washington has not
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had a homicide in a week. they normally average three. everybody's hunkered down here. snow plows are trying to get ahead of the snow and ice. you almost need a four-wheel drive. this will be the -- we're reaching the four and a half-day mark, including today. they worked a half-day friday when we had that initial round of storms. the president is back at work today after a very down day at the white house yesterday. he met with african-american leaders on the economy. he's got a full slate -- i'm serious! this is really cool. i normally go down -- no, i swear. i usually get the wash and set and the vul canization at the four seasons every morning but even this wind is blowing me around a little bit. let me just tell you about the president's schedule. he meets with secretaries geithner and clinton today in the oval office. these are all closed meetings. usual number of meetings today. we'll have a briefing from robert gibbs as well. >> mike viqueira reporting for us on the windy white house north lawn. looking for another moment of
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zen, i think. more on that later. >> i'll take all i can get. look, this weather on the east coast is having a richle effect around the country for travelers. cnbc's hampton pearson is at reagan national airport for us this morning. is the "c" word everywhere -- canceled, canceled, canceled. are we finally seeing at least delayed? >> no, canceled is still the word of the moment. reagan airport where i am is still officially the other "c" word -- closed. there is every expectation at some point this afternoon it is going to open up. this is turning out to be, according to airline industry analysts, perhaps the worst-ever weather disruption for the airline industry nationwide. something like 6,000 flights were canceled nationwide impacting 400,000 travelers. already in the neighborhood of 1,900 flights were pre-canceled today in anticipation that it is going to take some time to get the system back up and running. as i said, reagan national
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closed. dulles nearby, open. bwi open but lots of canceled flights. everything is set to re-open here. all we need, you guys, are some planes. there are still no airplanes here. back to you. >> hampton pearson, nobody wants to hear that. thank you for that report. this latest storm is over but the snow is everywhere. and now we're hearing about another storm possibly early next week. nbc's ginger zee joins us with the news we really don't want to hear. ginger? >> that storm next week will not be like the last two. that's the good news. but you have so much snow, even adding an inch to three inches by sunday night into monday. nobody wants it. now i grew up in west michigan. grand rapids, to be exact. and we have an average snowfall in the 80s. some places near the like 90s. you guys are killing it. look at this! seasonal so far -- remember, winter not over -- so that storm that created all the havoc is off into the ocean, it is gone so we do not have to deal with anything -- until monday.
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but the clear skies come along with temperatures in the 30s and wind, lots of it. a very windy day and a new storm for the south. texas has rain to snow. jackson, mississippi, they're getting snow up to three inches in some places. >> unbelievable. >> very interesting and very active pattern continues. >> that groundhog was right. best weather forecaster out there. he said six more weeks. all right, ginger, thanks very much. now to iran where president ahmadinejad marked the 31st anniversary of the revolution by proclaiming iran a "nuclear state." nbc is othe only u.s. network correspondent there. he was invited but it is reconvicted to the events in freedom square. describe the day's events, ali. >> reporter: good morning, chuck. that's right. we were invited to go to freedom
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square for a pro-government rally this morning. it was all very, very carefully stage managed. they were penned in to a certain action after being bussed in to the event. when the event was finished, we were bussed out of there. during the event we weren't even allowed to speak to pro-government supporters. it was very, very carefully stage managed. we were also told we were absolutely under no circumstances allowed to go out into the streets and film. having said that, outside of the event there were pockets of unrest in the city. they weren't on the sort of scale we've seen before, but opposition protesters took to the street chanting anti-government slogans and they were met by riot police who dispersed them with tear gas. >> ali, thanks very much reporting for us from tehran. we'll be checking in with you all week to see what more is happening there. as ali said, there are reports of violent clashes between security forces and opposition supporters in tehran. nbc chief foreign correspondent
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richard engel has been monitoring all of this. he's in london. richard, what are you seeing? >> reporter: there have been some videos that have been posted online by opposition supporters. there weren't the widespread clashes in tehran today that many people had been expecting. instead, these internet videos that we've been seeing that have been posted on sites like twitter and passed around through -- by mostly opposition supporters have shown relatively small crowds of demonstrators, a few hundred in any one place, doing things like tearing down posters of iran's supreme leader, trampling those posters under their feet. in other owes all of them seem to be shot by cell phones, can you see demonstrators throwing stones. but none of the kind of clashes or deadly encounters that we saw just the last time there was a major showdown between pro-government and anti-government forces last december. >> richard, should we read
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anything into this about the opposition movement, that it is weakening or simply that this wasn't the time to make a statement? >> i think you could read into it that it wasn't the time to make a statement. there were a lot of basij and revolutionary guard, militia, on the streets. it seems a lot of the protesters either thought this wasn't the right day to come out. the repercussions would be too severe. a lot of their leaders have been arrested in recent days and weeks. so it could have been more of a choose their battles scenario and they'll come out and fight not necessarily when the government is expecting it. >> all right, richard engel joining us from london this morning while monitoring these events in iran, thanks very much. well, to vancouver. it is the shin bang sending shock waves through the nation. skier lindsey vonn is trying to get off the injured list and back on the slopes. it is the big story at the winter olympics. nbc chief medical editor dr. nancy snyderman joins us now to try to explain how lindsey vonn can get back on those skis, win
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some gold medals and become the star of this olympics. >> hi, chuck. she's definitely the star of the olympics. that's all the buzz. but the real controversy comes over a hit that she took in austria where she got a bruise on her upper outer lower leg. i think the scenario's like this. she got a bruise, questionable as to who treated it in austria and sort of how aggressively. the blood pooled a little bit in the lower muscle so then it became sensitive where her boot really sort of has that pressure contact with the lower leg. it's about ten days out. i spoke with her physicians yesterday. they said that they are being conservative and yet sort of aggressive, what they call assertive conservative at the same time. stretching, ice, rest. i spoke with picabo street this morning about her take on all of this. obviously she's one of our great gold medal winners in skiing. she said she expects her to probably not do some of the practice runs but expect her to show up for at least three of
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the big medal events. whether she does all five remains to be seen. but i think you can expect her off that injured reserve list really, really fast. >> this feels like drama. i think we're adding some good drama to all this. you got to tune in to the olympics. >> are you suggesting we're doing this? no! thank you, nancy. catch all of the olympic action, all the drama right here on networks of nbc. have you heard in the winter games opening ceremony kicks off tomorrow, live from vancouver. >> there is nothing like an opening ceremony of an olympics. coming up on "the daily rundown," the big interview. washington, d.c. mayor adrian fenty on the record, breaking and budget busting snow that's paralyzed his city. and what will it take to dig all of us out of this stuff? later on, you heard it here -- missouri's kitt bond lashing out at the white house for reading miranda rights to terror suspects. this morning press secretary robert gibbs joins us to respond. a look ahead today at the
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the big dig is under way in the nation's capital. up to three feet of snow is on the ground. schools have been closed and federal government is shut down for a fourth straight day. maryland, virginia an the city of d.c. are looking to be formally designated disaster areas to get some federal help.
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and get this -- another storm could hit the area by monday. adrian fenty is the mayor of the district of columbia, a guy who hasn't got an lot of sleep recently. let me start with the federal government being closed. this is the fourth straight day. do you take any responsibility for the federal government's closure and the inability of workers to get to work? >> sure. federal workers living in washington, d.c., also live in maryland and virginia. all three of these states and cities have been hit pretty hard. most of the major streets, middle side streets, pretty passable within 48 hours but the residential streets, especially the small ones, with two to three feet of snow, it's crippled people's ability to get around a little bit. >> that's true but the snow stopped saturday and then we had this window until wednesday when we've really got a storm yesterday. do you feel like your crews have done the best possible job to get those streets cleared? >> there's no question. you've got to spend a day with a
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plow driver. they're driving at 2:00 a.m. in the morning with the blizzard. they're avoiding cars and pedestrians. it's a real heroic work that they're doing. there's always things that you could do better. mayors should always prepare themselves to do better next time. but we had a big snow in december. we handled that extremely well. this one took us over the record for the season and it got cold really fast. these are all kind of nuanced details. the bottom line is we'll plow it up. the district -- our local government was open monday and tuesday. federal government employees comes from a broader, farther area. that was probably the reason for the difficulty. >> but then this goes to the other question, do you have enough resources? it sounds like you don't have enough resources if your crews are working around the clock and the fact there is still a lot of medium-sized streets still not in very passable shape. does that mean you don't have enough resources? should the federal government be more involved with d.c. clean-up
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than, say, the average city? >> i think they're appropriately involved. this is the key fact. we average 15 inches of snow per season. we're at 60. four times as much snow. so you know, should we have a snow budget and snow command that's four times the size? should we be like buffalo and have an agency just committed to snow? probably not. should i as the mayor look and learn some things and beef up a little bit more, work a little bit smarter, use private companies a little bit better? probably going forward. >> you just said -- so what are some of the things you'll change going forward to prepare for the next big storm? >> we'll probably try to have a little bit bigger contracts with private companies just so that we can enlist resources faster. i think a lot of cities around here will probably do a huge investment in new equipment. some of our equipment is right on the border. >> i saw 25% of your equipment was broken down at one point yesterday. >> it was broken down at one
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point. we got it fixed pretty quickly. we have great mechanics. but with 60 inches of snow, we usually get 15 -- >> but that says old equipment. >> and a lot of wear and tear. we've gone through four seasons in one season. we definitely have to invest and see a lot of that in our budget preparation. >> are you expecting major road work to be done when the snow melts? that's really tough on the pavement. >> potholes are just as big an issue to a mayor as snow. but you said it best, it's still february. >> are you going to get a waiver to dump some of the snow into the river? >> we're not dumping into the river. we're dumping into open green spaces. >> it is eventually going to go into the river? >> our environmental people say absolutely we're not going to dump in the river. we are going to be reimbursed by the federal government for local costs. that's been a big help. >> mayor adrian fenty of washington, d.c., busy time for you. thanks so much.
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from the year before. analysts fear bank seizures may rise to a record 3 million this year. nbc news has learned that a haitian judge is expected to issue a final ruling today on the ten missionaries accused of kidnapping 33 children in january. wnbc is reporting that "30 rock" star alec baldwin was rushed to a hospital last night after a relative concerned for his health called 911. the caller expressed concern that the actor may have been taking pills, according to the report. a baldwin spokesperson called it a "misunderstanding" and says the actor will be at work later today. former texas congressman charlie wilson died yesterday. the 76-year-old served 12 consecutive terms in the house. that's a look at the news. now to chuck and the 2010. >> he had the greatest nickname in congress -- good time charlie. the guy always knew how to have a good time. one year ago president obama
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came to florida to show there was bipartisan support for his stimulus plan. he got a big boost that day from charlie crist, 1 of 3 republicans in the country that endorsed the plan. now crist is in the fight for his political life with marco rubio in that hotly contested senate primary. last night rubio marked the anniversary of this bomb/crist event by holding a fund-raiser at the very same place obama and crist appeared together in ft. meyers one year ago. >> washington has been hit by a blizzard, a snowstorm. the congress can't meet to vote on things? i think this blizzard's the best think that's happened to the american economy in 12 months. tonight i'm telling you why i'm running for the u.s. senate. because i want to win a nobel peace prize. i'm kidding, guys.
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i'm joking. i know you have to be there two weeks to do that. let me close. i'm sorry the peach is a little disjointed. the teleprompter broke. >> as you can see, lots of one-liners there for a red meat republican audience. meanwhile, charlie crist's campaign is passing around this clip from a december interview where rubio appears to be for the stimulus before he was against it. take a listen. >> would you not have accepted stimulus money? >> two different questions. as far as if i would have been governor, i'd have studied that plan more carefully before i embraced it. >> would have you gone to that rally? >> of course not. that was a rally in support after specific plan. >> you would not accept the money? >> accepting the money is different. ultimately i had accept those portions of the money that wouldn't put florida in a worse position off in the future. >> as you can see, charlie crist's campaign in the last couple of weeks has ramped up its attacks on rubio. we'll see what happens over the next three months and see if any of this takes hold. rubio's built a fairly significant lead, of late, in
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some polls. the house retirement list has grown by two. eight-term michigan congressman vern ehlers. and california congresswoman diane watson is expected to announce today she'll step down. it brings our out of the house list to 17 republican congressman retiring, 13 democratic congressman are retiring. this really isn't a huge boon yet for retirements as you might expect in what is supposed to be a very tumultuous election year. that's good news for democrats trying to hold that majority. coming up, white house press secretary robert gibbs responds to republican critics who say the administration's anti-terror policies are putting americans at greater risk. plus the rising tensions with iran.
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it's the bottom of the hour. let's look at the top stories driving the day. top for us of course, the big dig-out. washington, philadelphia and baltimore have all set new records for the snowiest winters. roads and airports are re-opening now but thousands remain without power. if you can believe it, more snow may be on the way for the east coast. a new report from the white house predicts that the u.s. will create, on average, 95,000 new jobs a month this year. the report by the white house's council of economic advisors also predicts the economy could grow at a rate of 2.5%.
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and nbc news reports about 20,000 pro government supporters turned out today to mark the 31st anniversary of the islamic revolution in iran. at that rally mahmoud ahmadinejad declared his country is now a nuclear state. for more on the significance of this anniversary, the protests and where the u.s. and iran go from here, our chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. i want to go to what we've seen, we had a report already that described the situation. looks like the protests were really muted. >> they were preemptively muted because the government went out, in advance, not only with executions, with arrests, but the government did so many things that were threatening over the last couple of days and weeks that the demonstrators did what they could. you saw people -- now we've been trying to monitor, and richard
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engel and our whole london team have been monitoring very clairfy. we have a team in new york as well, and here in washington, looking at twitter, looking at what we can find out. the social networking. what we're discovering is that there were pockets of demonstrators, people wearing green, people on the metro, on the subway shouting "death to the dictator." we can't verify the accuracy of a lot of this but a lot is from familiar sources to us. we have iranian-americans and other iranians helping us with all of this and of course translating the farsi. what we can see is that the emotion and political action is there but that the government has done a very effective job -- look what they did to the very few western journalists. they told them they would be escorted to freedom square, they could listen to the official speech by ahmadinejad. they could not interview even pro government demonstrators, then they'd be escorted back.
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>> what's fascinating about that, by doing that, ali couldn't go out and do what he normally does for us, which is his own reporting, during the moment of that time. >> not even with the pro government supporters. >> he was invited to go watch. >> that only reinforces how fearful they are that the fractured regime and the revolution goes on and they can't bottle it up. >> let's talk about what the iranian president said at that rally, that iran is now a nuclear state and highly enriching uranium. should the west take him at his word? though in the "post" today they are talking about all the technical difficulties iran is having in getting to that point of highly enrich aring uranium which of course is the fuel for a nuclear weapon. >> we have seen in the past they've had a lot of technical problems. it has taken them far longer than our intelligence thought it would take them. there were originally much shorter time frames for this to have taken place. that said, u.s. intelligence recently revised their estimates and do believe that they are trying to do this, contrary to the 2007 intelligence estimate,
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the consensus opinion was that they had tried but were no longer trying. that's been discredited. secondly, they've reached 20%. if they have, the next leap to get to 90% of enriched uranium to actually make a weapon is a lot shorter time frame. >> explain that. it seems countertutive. but getting to 20% is the hard part. >> it's not easy, they still need more centrifuges, they still have problems. but they have managed to go on the black market and get some from european countries and they have a lot of technology. they've got very good research and scientists. the question now is what does israel do, what does the u.s. do and where do we take it from here. >> so that mean sanctions, sanctions, sanctions. first on the screen are the sanctions that are in place. there are actually sanctions against the iranians. sanctions generally that targeted against wmd-related trade with iran. transferring a ban on iran from
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transferring arms outside the country. restricting dealings with some iranian banks. obviously these haven't been effective sanctions when it comes to preventing them from building a nuclear stockpile. >> but it has really hurt their economy. >> that's clear. that's probably what's created this internal political strife. so what can be done now? obviously they want a whole range of even tougher sanctions, all economic related sanctions. >> but they're trying to not target the average iranian. they don't want to have a backlash. these new sanctions are against specific leaders of the revolutionary guard. their bank accounts specifically. and we now know that the revolutionary guard is largely running the nuclear program, so it is no longer ahmadinejad who's really in charge of this nuclear program and where it goes from here. it is really the revolutionary guard. they are the power bloc. if we can target sanctions against them, they have bank accounts in dubai, switzerland.
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go after their money. it worked pretty effectively with north korea. >> interesting. andrea mitchell, thank you for your expertise. >> andrea will have much more on the rising tensions with iran with job lieberman who with john mccain today will announce new human rights leelted sanction ideas they'd like to see done. >> before we go, my favorite trivia question -- which senator is known by his staff as "hair force one." >> come on, andrea. who is it? >> democratic senator ben nelson of nebraska. >> his staff called his "hair force one." >> it is a great coif! >> he also likes to be called -- >> is it real? >> oh, andrea! with the war of words raging between the white house and republicans over anti-terror policies, we're going in the room with white house press secretary robert gibbs. later on, is u.s. olympic skier lindsey vonn the latest
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it's a double daily flashback. in 1975 margaret thatcher became the first woman ever to lead the british conservative party. course that led to her becoming the prime minister of great britain. in 1990 south african activist nelson mandela was freed after 27 years in jail. he went on to become president of south africa. the white house is pushing back against those who say its anti-terror policies are endangering the country. republican senator kitt bond has been one of the most vocal critics. yesterday he was on this show and went after the administration for its handling of would-be christmas day bomber umar abdulmutallab.
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>> i believe mirandising him was very bad. i want to see them change that. i believe they should never disclose information that the intelligence community said was highly sensitive. it was so sensitive they only briefed four members of the senate on monday. on tuesday the white house proudly announces that because they can't take the heat because republicans have criticized them. >> this morning press secretary robert gibbs responded on behalf of the white house. i asked him why other agencies weren't brought in to help the fbi with abdulmutallab's interrogation at the time. >> first of all, the most experienced interrogators -- among the most experienced interrogators we have in our government are those at the fbi. they are trained to be able to do this sort of thing. after abdulmutallab went in for medical treatment, other agencies obviously were brought in and consulted, and have been involved in this process. >> so they were -- so the cia was in there interrogating or consulted on the interrogation? >> the fbi interrogated the
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subject, disseminated intelligence throughout the community, and throughout this process other agencies in our government and intelligence agencies have helped fbi interrogators through these interrogations. but understand this, chuck. if this notion of whether he should be an enemy combatant or whether he should be tried in a civilian court, if that's the crux of the argument based on what you said is their number one argument, which i'm not necessarily sure that's what they've articulated. but if that's their number one argument, the defense department, the intelligence community, and the fbi all came to an agreement that the way he was being interrogated, and what has now led to his cooperation, was the path that we should go down. what we have here -- >> robert, wait. >> but hold on for a second. we have listened to politicians in congress describe how they think is best to interrogate
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somebody who tried to blow up an airplane that landed in detroit. i think what's better and what i think would make the american people feel safer is if the people who are trained to interrogate, law enforcement professionals, people with decades of counterterrorism experience, are the ones who are doing this, not politicians in washington. >> fair enough. fair enough, robert. but to that end, did you lose an opportunity to interrogate by mirandising too soon? this was not a product of reflection that went all the way to the top. >> absolutely not. >> how can you say that? how can you say that you have lost no valuable intelligence when a period elapses between the day or so after the bombing and five weeks before he renews his cooperation? >> no, no. savannah, he didn't just stop talking because he got mirandized. he stopped talking because he was trained to stop talking. >> that's true. >> just put -- no, no. let's not simplify this. just because you make somebody an enemy combatant doesn't make them talk. >> wait a minute, wait a minute, robert.
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>> no, no, no. >> i want to make the viewers familiar with the procedures. >> take the case of jose padilla. >> if you don't mirandise somebody, investigators cannot go back to him and get him to talk. they cannot cajole him or persuade him. if he's an enemy combatant, they have the ability to go back and talk. >> you're greatly simplifying the process. if someone isn't going to talk, it doesn't matter if they're going to be read their miranda rights. jose padilla -- we've known for more than eight years that richard reid is a british citizen. jose padilla was made an enemy combatant so we could get him to talk. guess what happened when we made him an enemy combatant? he didn't talk. he did talk when he was transferred back into a civilian court. what has been done was, this procedure was followed. the fbi protocols and procedures
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were followed. agencies were consulted about how to get information and intelligence from this individual. and that's what's happened. what you're seeing is a series of politicians -- you've seen a series of -- the protocol that was established at the end of the last administration about how to deal with suspects in the fbi, which again was agreed upon by all these agencies, was the protocol that was followed. this wasn't some sort of surprise. but again, what we have here are politicians who have decided eight years after they agreed that everything that was done right on richard reid somehow is now all done wrong because it is a different president, that's not law enforcement. that's politics, guys. >> but then i'm confused by this. both the president, robert mueller in testimony, john brennan on "meet the press," all seemed to hint, well, the next time maybe we won't mirandise so soon. all of them have hinted over the last 72 hours.
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so is that not a tacit acknowledgement that maybe you guys are changing your procedure on this? >> chuck, what the president asked everyone to do january 5th in the situation room was evaluate everything that happened in this process. we're not stubborn enough to think that everything we do on every occasion is right. okay? the military conducts after-action reports after a military exercise, or a military procedure. that's the same thing that is happening here and now. and understand this, chuck. the next time something happens, it's probably not going to be exactly as it happened this time. just like what happened in detroit wasn't exactly what had happened with richard reid or in new york. >> but it does sound like the government is concerned now looking back that you mirandized too soon. >> that's not true. >> robert, let's move on to this issue of khalid shaikh mohammed. would you acknowledge that there is a great amount of unpredictability in the civilian system? many times you have raised this
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issue of moussaoui. the moussaoui case who was tried in the civilian system. as you are well aware, the government's sengsly lost that case. the only issue at trial was whether he should get the death penalty and the jury spared him. how can you guarantee that khalid shaikh mohammed will -- there won't be something similar happening in that case? you can't guarantee the outcome there. >> let's understand, let's not oversimplify this, savannah. let's understand for the american people that moussaoui sits in a prison and will sit in a prison for the rest of his life. as will richard reid for the rest of his life. there's an overwhelming case against khalid shaikh mohammed. there's an overwhelming case against his co-conspirators. civilian courts, as has been recognized by both the bush administration and the obama administration, have a fantastic record of getting convictions and bringing about justice. >> fair enough. but for example, in civilian court a defense lawyer could easily bring a motion at the
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beginning of the case and say there has been outrageous government conduct here, this guy was waterboarded 183 times, and you can't stop a federal judge from just throwing that case out. are you prepared for that contingency? >> i don't think that's what's going to happen, savannah. i'm sure that the defense counsel with make any series of motions. but understand this. the american people are not scared of bringing justice through the american justice system. i think that's what's going to happen in this case. i said on a news show a few weeks ago, i'm sure the lawyers didn't really like it, i think khalid shaikh mohammed will meet his maker at the end of this process. >> i was just going to say, both you and the president said that to me, actually, in china in an interview. and, you know, what does that say -- do you worry that you somehow have kangaroo courted up our whole justice system? >> how can you hold up the whole american justice system in the model of fairness and impartiality when you and the
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president himself have guaranteed the outcome? >> i haven't guaranteed the outcome. i've said here's what i believe the outcome will be based on the overwhelming evidence in the case, based on the fact that he's admitted that he did all this. i think the murder of 3,000 people on american soil is going to garner the death penalty. i think khalid shaikh mohammed and his co-conspirators will meet their maker because of a justice system that works, an overwhelming amount of evidence to convict, and the likelihood that, upon that conviction, the death penalty will be brought for the murder of 3,000 people. i think that's very easy to see. >> one final question. you're losing the politics of this issue in civilian trials. you've seen the polls. i've seen the polls. the criticism i've seen on the left on this issue of you guys is, you're not politically selling this well enough. what can you do better? do you accept that criticism that you're not doing a good job selling this policy?
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>> well, look. i accept the criticism that this is a very complex issue and it's a difficult one for the american people to weigh through. look, i understand that. if you look at the same polling though, chuck, you see that a good majority of the country supports the president's response to terrorism. i think what we have to do is take in to account the security and the logistical concerns of a place like new york city. but i will tell you this. all of your viewers should read what the judge in the richard reid case said viewers should r what the judge in the richard reid case said to richard reid. he basically said to him, look, sir. you're nothing big. you're not a big man. you're not a tall man. you're just a terrorist thug. and you're going to jail for the rest of your life. and you're going to do it because all of the world can see the american justice system bring that penalty down on you. >> all right. white house press secretary robert gibbs, thank you so much for your time this morning.
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>> thanks, guys. >> thank you, sir. our interview with robert gibbs from about an hour ago. >> yep. he'll be having a press briefing today with all of the white house press corps at about, 12:45? >> exactly. coming up on a much lighter note, keeping up with the kardashians at the white house. and inside the "sports illustrated" cover curse. has u.s. olympic skater lindsey vonn become the latest victim? you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. why is lubriderm® daily moisture a favorite among dermatologists? one reason, lubriderm® daily moisture contains the same nutrients naturally found
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here it is, your moment is in. >> on health care the president has called this meeting for february 25th. whoa, now! >> oh, my gosh. >> mike viquiera, you've arrived. >> nice. >> now for a little snowy amusement at the expense of our colleagues, what exactly are we calling this snowstorm again? >> it's either snowmageddon or
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snowpocalypse. >> snowpacolypse. >> knsnowmageddon. >> snowzilla. >> snownami. >> snowmaggedon. >> oh, love it. and mike viquiera. >> one of the most -- yeah, snowverkill. scott foster pointed out that khloe kardashian has posted pictures of her trip to the white house. khloe called the president sweet and charming. she also reveals she has a little crush on him. chief kardashian producer scott foster also points out that with the saints winning the super bowl, there could be another kardashian soon at the white
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house because as everyone in this audience surely knows, kim kardashian is dating reggie bush. who'd have thought the president would get to keep up with the kardashians. >> maybe the kardashians ought to start a reality show. >> good idea, yeah. >> their various treks around the country, maybe going to the white house. the countdown to tomorrow night's opening ceremonies, one big question is whether lindsey vonn, one of america's favorites for gold, is now out of the running. we may find out today after von holds a training run to test her bruised shin. some say vonn was cursed the minute she was cut on the cover of "sports illustrated" and described as america's best female skier ever. if you question the curse, just remember this. first, it started back in 1949, we think, but just last the vikings' brett favre and the jets' mark sanchez were featured on the cover. both lost in the playoffs the week after being on that cover. >> and that is why chuck and i turned down "sports illustrated" cover. >> i always say no. i always say no to "s.i." >> that's it for us.
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